Episode 11: Happily Ever After
In this fairy tale inspired episode of Pod Culture [Oz], we joined by romance novelist Renee Dahlia as we discuss how fairy tale tropes can be translated across into fiction.
We explore how fairy tale retellings are used in modern stories, which fairy tales are most popular, the connection between fairy tales and romance, and how marginalised authors can use them to leverage their stories for a wider audience.
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“Just as there are more fairy tales than Cinderella, there is more diversity in romance. Using familiar fairy tale tropes acts as both a mirror and a window.”
Guest Host: Renee Dahlia
Romance Novels that use fairy tale tropes (list compiled by Renee and Philippa)
Timestamps:
0:00 – Introduction
1:40 – Why fairy tales?
7:48 – What is a fairy tale?
18:45 – Fairy tales and Romance
41:07 – Fairy tales in other media
59.08 – Accessibility of fairy tales
1:18:58 – Wrap up
1:24:01 – Outro
Books we discuss:
Alta, A., (2018). The changing face of romance novels, New York Times, accessed 1/7/2021.
Anderson, Hans Christian, (1837). The Little Mermaid, C. A. Reitzel, Denmark.
Antonelli, S (2018). At Your Service (In Service Book 1).
Antonelli, S (2019). Forever In Your Service (In Service Book 2).
Antonelli, S (2020). True to Your Service (In Service Book 3).
Antonelli, S., (2019). Diversity and the hidden value of ageism, The Blog with Bite, accessed 25/7/2021.
Arendt, Hannah (1958). The Human Condition.
Barrie, J.M. (1904). Peter Pan or The Boy Who Wouldn’t Grow Up.
Barthes, Roland, (1984). Mythologies, translated by Annette Lavers, Hill and Wang, New York.
Baum, Frank L., (1900). The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, George M Hill Company, Chicago.
Baylon, Kalynn (2020). Cinderella is dead, Bloomsbury Publishing, New York.
Beckett, L., (2019). Fifty shades of white: the long fight against racism in romance novels, The Guardian, accessed 25/6/2021.
BlackWords, part of AusLit, accessed 20/5/2021.
Biddick, Kathleen (1993). Decolonising the English Past: Readings in Medieval Archaeology and History.
Campbell, Joseph (1949). The Hero with a Thousand Faces, Pantheon Books, New York.
Carrol, Lewis, (1865). Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland.
Carter, Angela, (1979). The Bloody Chamber and other stories, Gollancz, London.
Chant, Austin (2017). Peter Darling.
Charles, K.J. (2021). The Gentle Art of Fortune Hunting, KJC Books.
Cixin, Liu, (2008). The Dark Forest, English translation by Ken Liu c 2015, Tor Books, New York.
Cixin, Liu, (2010). Death’s End, English translation by Ken Liu c 2016, Tor Books, New York.
Cixin, Liu, (2008). The Three Body Problem, English translation by Ken Liu c 2014, Tor Books, New York.
Christie, Agatha, (1926). The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, William Collins & Sons, Glasgow.
Christie, Agatha, (1934). Murder on the Orient Express, Collins Crime Club, England.
Cole, A., (2018). Smashing the heteropatriarchy: Representations of queerness in reimagined fairy tales, accessed 6/7/2021.
Cole, Alyssa (2018). A Princess in Theory (Reluctant Royals series), Avon, New York.
Datlow, E. & Windling, T. (1998), Sirens and Other Daemon Lovers: Magical Tales of Love and Seduction, Harper Voyager, New York.
Datlow, E. & Windling, T. (1993), Snow White, Blood Red, William Morrow & Co, New York.
Dahlia, Renee (2021). Her Lady’s Fortune.
Dahlia, Renee (2020). Her Lady’s Honour, Carina Press.
Dahlia, Renee (2021). Her Lady’s Melody.
Dahlia, Renee (2021). Secrets of the Soho Club, Kindle Unlimited.
de Bodard, Aliette, (2018). In the Vanisher’s Palace, JABberwocky Literary Agency, Inc.
Grey, Aster Glenn (2018). Briarley.
Hall, Alexis (2013). Glitterland.
Hall, Alexis (2015). For Real.
Hall, Alexis (2016). Looking for Group.
Homer, The Odyssey.
Hurley-Moore, N. (2019). Romance Writers of Australia Diversity Panel, accessed 3/7/2021.
King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table myths.
Kingsbury, M., (2020). Thoughts about fairytales and disability, Book Riot, accessed 5/7/2021.
Lang, Andrew (1899). The Blue Fairy Book, Longman’s, Green & Co, London.
Le Guin, U., (1975). This Fear of Dragons, in Blishen, E. (ed) (1975), The Thorny Paradise, Kestrel Books, London.
Leduc, A. (2020). Disfigured: On Fairy Tales, Disability, and Making Space, Coach House Books, Toronto.
Maguire, Gregory (1999). Confessions of an Ugly Step Sister, William Morrow, New York.
Maguire, Gregory (1995). Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West, William Morrow, New York.
Moore, Natasha (2009). The Better to Eat You, Red Sage Publishing, Inc.
Parrish, Roan (2021). Best Laid Plans (Garnet Run book 2), Carina Adores, Ontario.
Perault, Charles, Tales from past times with morals (story tale collection).
Sims Bishop, R. (1990). Windows, Mirrors and Sliding Doors, accessed 5/7/2021.
Snyder, Suleikha (2021). Big Bad Wolf, Sourcebooks Casablanca.
Snyder, Suleikha (2014). Bollywood and the Beast (Bollywood Confidential series).
Stephens, J. & McCallum, R. (1998). Retelling stories, framing culture: Traditional stories and metanarrative in children’s stories, Garland Publishing, London.
Tolkien, J.R.R., On Fairy Stories, reprinted in Boyer, R. & Zahorski, K. (1984). Fantasists on Fantasy: A collection of critical reflections, Avon Books, Michigan.
Vinge, Joan (1980). The Snow Queen, Dial Press, New York.
Waite, Olivia (2019). The Lady’s Guide to Celestial Mechanics, Avon Impulse.
Willingham, Bill (2002 – ). Fables (comic), Vertigo Comics, New York.
Yolen, Jane, Women’s Stories, in Schwartz, Susan (ed.)(1995). Sisters in Fantasy, Roc Publishing, New York.
Zipes, Jack (ed) (2002). The Oxford Companion to Fairy Tales, Oxford University Press, New York.
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Grant, Stan. The philosophers who might help us through COVID’s dark days of lockdown, in ABC News Online.
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